Tuesday, February 7, 2012

The "Torah" declarations open letter to me and all "other gay activists"

So the people behind the "Torah" declaration published this letter to me and other "gay activists" today, a response is forthcoming but I think you should read this before you read what I have to say :)

So the people behind the "Torah" declaration published this letter to me and other "gay activists" today, a response is forthcoming but I think you should read this before you read what I have to say :)

1 comment:

  1. he "Torah Declaration" is a cruel hoax.

    Aside from all the mainstream psychiatric, psychological, social work, the World Health Organization and counselling groups even many experts among people that have been involved in "reparative therapy" mostly agree on this. It does not work in changing orientation.

    Dr. Abba Borowich, an Orthodox psychiatrist who practiced reparative therapy for Orthodox homosexuals for nearly 30 years concluded that this was an ineffective course of therapy which only increased suffering among his patients and their families .

    Rabbi Chaim Rapoport, an ultra-Orthodox rabbi who is the author of Judaism and Homosexuality: An Authentic Orthodox View, has said, "I am not obligated to believe in a failed therapy because it fits my theology better."

    See also
    http://www.jpost.com/Opinion/Op-EdContributors/Article.aspx?id=110642
    According to those who do believe in such conversions, the sucsess rate is around 0.5%
    http://www.religioustolerance.org/hom_exod1.htm

    The leader of Exodus the largest public group of people (several hundreds) who changed from a gay to heterosexual lifestyle admits that this does not include an end of same sex attraction for 99.9% of the group.
    "There has been a change in our beliefs about orientation change focused therapy and we don’t believe it’s effective.”

    Dr. Spitzer
    “If people can recognize that being a homosexual is something that cannot be changed and that efforts to change are going to be disappointing and can be harmful, if that can be more widely known that would be very good. "

    Another issue is Arthur Goldberg of Jonah.
    See
    http://www.southfloridagaynews.com/news/national-news/547-ex-gay-is-ex-con.html

    This organization has many problems
    aside from a criminal history.
    It can't provide any proof of change, It has relied on crackpot therapies that have included touching that is prohibited by the Torah, and it relies primarily, and in great detail on the idea that Jesus will provide the change.

    I hope that in spite of what they must have experienced the twenty-five people
    that have gone through the Torah Declaration path will have happy Torah lives,

    But Orthodox religious therapists and rabbis have an alternative to this Declaration. See
    statementofprinciplesnya.blogspot.com

    Without having clear evidence that a treatment is effective you cannot in good conscience recommend an unproven treatment that can cause undo pain, suffering, and death as the signers of this declaration have done.



    The many rabbis that signed this other statement are truly concerned for both the 0.5% and the 99.5% group and have not endorsed a failed therapy because it would fit better with their theology.

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